Move Items - Let users move items from one node to another in a single step.

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    Frank (Workflowy Support)

    Hi Benjamin,

    We'd like to have this in due course!

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    morgs

    I came here to ask about this exact feature, I genuinely can't see how to move things into a new place without exiting from a particular node/process. The CTL-SHIFT-M shortcut in Dynalist has become muscle memory for me.

    I have multiple lists that are intentionally messy, and only when items from such a list become clear do I move them into an actionable node.

    I.e. Below, if I want to move "Rice" into "c. Diet" (several sub-items above, and items deep) is there a way to do so without leaving my "___" (messy) list?

    (Dragging to sidebar currently only allows dropping onto the top of a node.

    This could however be easily resolved by when click-dragging an item to sidebar - holding-mouse-left >hover< on sidebar node opens that node [as per click], if still holding-mouse-left hovering over subsequent bullets could drill down into those bullets [as per click], and eventually release-mouse-left could place item and return screen to original list.

    This way one could drill down to desired item without 'leaving' current list [similar to one good file-drag feature I miss from MacOS].

    The only additional functionality here would be adding a "hover" action when dragging, instead of click, then returning list to the original. Bang for buck as far as dev goes!)

    Here's the example I had ready to paste! 🤣

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    Frank (Workflowy Support)

    Hi @morgs

    The CTL-SHIFT-M shortcut in Dynalist has become muscle memory for me.

    You can activate WorkFlowy Labs in your Settings menu and then "Move to":

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    morgs

    Oh, great stuff, thx!

    However, ctl-alt-m is not working for me in windows app or website (edge) on Windows 10 pro x64 21H2  - I enabled labs, closed and reopened/refreshed.

    EDIT: just tested in latest Chrome, cleared cache, no shortcut working.

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    Ben Cassani

    Refresh Workflowy and click on the three dots ... (the ellipses)
    and you should see a move to command in the menu, below upload file.

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    morgs

    Yes, thank you, that is working.

    I was letting you know that the shortcut is not, across 3 clients.

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    morgs

    Just confirmed shortcut working on partners MacOS.

    Any updates re: the shortcut not working on windows? 

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    Jonathan March

    @morgs the shortcut ctrl+alt+m works as expected for me on Edge on Win 10. It sounds like somewhere in your system there's an override of that shortcut. Unfortunately, I don't have a suggestion about how best to debug the issue; there a number of keyboard mapping utilities out there which can add a layer of remapping, but I don't know which ones will help you identify existing remaps.

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    morgs

    I've gone down the rabbit hole in trying to find what is using that shortcut, various programs show that shortcut as reserved, but I've found no program that shows what is actually using that shortcut.

    It did lead me to seeing how common that ctrl-alt-m shortcut is (to make a case for customising shortcuts), see: https://defkey.com/what-means/ctrl-alt-m

    Also, that there's no mobile option to move an item on Android, was a shock.

    Isn't moving items in the app the fundamental use-case/need for this shortcut? (bcoz there's no keyboard to do so). 
    The Dynalist android app has up/down arrows, and a move icon (works as per desktop) above the keyboard.

    Also, there's no easy way to drag items, and dragging an item sideways to "done" ( all | doing | done ) in a fractal board on mobile wasn't possible.

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    Jonathan March

    You might be able to use the Power Toys Keyboard Manager to set it even if you don't know who's grabbing it.

    Yes, the android app needs a lot of love still. The team is stretched thin with many of their devs being in Ukraine.

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    morgs

    I do use PowerToys and know the keyboard manager, but what exactly do I do?

    Map ctl-alt-m to what now?

    I also can't select an app, only type a name?

    And how will this release the shortcut for Workflowy?

    Re: syncing between clients, needs a new ticket, yet honestly with issues adding up not sure if I can keep on with Workflowy (as much as I want to).
    My items have not been updating between browsers (a few forced cache refreshes resolved it, but not ideal), then from desktop app to partners macbook-chrome I had to manually clear cache in browser (not extension button) to see latest - is this a new/current known issue? 

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    Jonathan March

    As proof of concept, try mapping ctl-alt-m to ctl-alt-m for all apps?

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    Morgan Newall

    "Cannot remap a shortcut to itself"

    UPDATE: My issue was Macrium Reflect which hides it's shortcut in ReflectMonitor, that should be in tray, but doesn't even load on my system (these shortcut issues seem to go back to at least 2015). 

    This is the only thing that worked for me (circa 2015), along with uninstalling

    . . . if you add the following registry entry and reboot the change will persist: HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Macrium\Reflect\ReflectMonitor
    Name: EnableHotKey
    Type:  DWORD
    Value: 0

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    Jonathan March

    Thanks for the update, good to know. Glad it's resolved.

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    Morgan Newall

    I, in an entirely unanticipated move, just landed on MacOS after 20yrs away.

    But there's no "move to" MacOS shortcut?

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    Jonathan March

    I don't think there's a move-to shortcut on any platform. 

    The shortcut discussed above, ctrl+alt+m on windows, is to make a mirror copy of a node (i.e. when you paste it, it creates a mirror of that node.)

    The "move-to" command is a slash command (type "/mt" after the aforementioned mirror paste).

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    Morgan Newall

    You're mistaken - we're clearly discussing "move to" above, not "mirror".

    "Move to" on windows had the ctl-alt-m shortcut. 
    It's showing no shortcut on macos.

    "Mirror" = alt-shift-m.

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    Jonathan March

    Sorry, right you are! I'd forgotten that it exists, and it's also not shown in the Windows keyboard shortcut help bar. Maybe the same is true on Mac?

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    Morgan Newall

    It's a lab add-on. Shortcut shows on Windows drop-down, not on Mac.

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    Jonathan March

    So in the Settings menu on Mac, there's no equivalent to this (snipped from Windows), even though the text seems to mention the Mac "Option" modifier (equivalent to Alt)?:

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    Morgan Newall

    Oh my, my turn to "right you are".
    Didn't think to look there, shows on dropdown on Win, but not on mac.

    If anyone else finds themselves here:

    Ctl + Opt + M 

    Works on Mac

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    Jonathan March

    Whew!

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