Line breaks in bullets

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    Grant Hallgrimson

    Not sure if this would work for you, I don’t write lyrics but I do all of my writing in the notes area.

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    Frank (Workflowy Support)

    Hi Jesper,

    Grant gave you the official answer :-) The note area can be activated by hitting Shift+Enter

     

    ~ Frank

     

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    Jesper Wilhelmsson

    Yes, I started to use the notes area but as have been noted earlier in threads on this topic the notes section closes automatically when you navigate away from it. That’s a problem for me. There are a few issues that if fixed would make the notes area more useful for me:
    * Don’t collapse the area automatically. A setting to choose manual collapse would be perfect.
    * Make it possible to change the font color and size so that it looks like the normal bullet text. If this is the text I’m supposed to read the most it doesn’t make sense to have smaller font and darker color (using dark mode).

    It could be that I just need some time to get used to it.

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    Frank (Workflowy Support)

    > It could be that I just need some time to get used to it.

    This is always the case!

     

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    Spencer Scott

    Hello! I have been experimenting lots lately with using the notes feature in regards to achieving paragraph/line breaks within the Workflowy ecosystem.

    Starting to get the hang of wrapping my head around it to think of the bullet as the title, and the note as the contents, allowing me to press ENTER while inside the note to make line breaks. As well as copy/paste existing documents I have from elsewhere that contain line breaks/paragraph breaks/blank lines whatever you want to call them.

     

    However, as a song/lyric/poetry/screenplay writer as well. Their are still some things I can't quite get the hang of and would love some insight into figuring out a workaround or request as a future feature.

    1.  The fact that the notes collapse when not selected is a problem for my personal workflow: It means I can't have multiple poems (notes) selected at once if I wanted to display them all together and copy/paste, or replace lines, or even just look at to gain some possible insight into deeper meanings or themes.

    2. I also agree with OP that the somewhat fainter font of the notes section, while helpful in many other areas around workflowy, takes away from users experience who use that section as a writing space primarily.

     

    So the feature request (or workaround option) is either making the notes manually collapsible/expandable, OR allowing some formatting within a bullet to be able to press ENTER and make a line break, as opposed to new bullet.

     

    I effin love workflowy and will continue to use it for so so so many different purposes. And the above workarounds/features I long for do seem trivial I suppose, but would they be that hard to implement? I would really like to know. 

     

     

    Cheers!

     

     

     

     

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    Frank (Workflowy Support)

    Hi Spencer,

    Thank you for laying out your use case! It's not a matter of difficulty of implementation... but rather a change in the "classic" WorkFlowy structure/ dynamic.

    While understandably one gets line breaks in WorkFlowy notes, there are many WorkFlowy users who also do their song and script writing in bullets themselves. A trivial example would be this blog post where you'll come across the following screenshot:

    Bullets better allow one to slice and dice and shuffle information... and in the near future we may be implementing document views where the bullets are cleared...

    ~ Frank

     

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    Kent C Myers

    It's funny that I'm always looking for a line feed, and I somehow forgot that Workflowy doesn't have one.  I guess it must be in Word (where I often have to turn off the automatic extra line at the end of a paragraph, every time it gets 'upgraded'. I have a fequent need to shorten my lines, or for example move a URL to a fresh line, using a line feed instead of carriage return.  I must be getting old.  Was I slipping way back to MaxThink?  I do use Workflowy daily and just forgot that I don't have one. 

    On another note, the list of keyboard commands is incomplete.  It doesn't have ctrl-Z to undo, for example, which is surely crucial!

    Anyway, put me in for a line feed command.  That should not be impossible. 

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    mark

    Hi Frank,

    first of all thank you for your tremendous product! I absolutely love it.

     

    The Problem I have with using Notes for a "multiline thought" is that I only see the content of the note if the note is selected. If I want to view over multiple multiline thoughts I have to click and select each note.

    I tried your idea to use Sub-Bullets for "multiline thoughts" but this did not work for me since it implies a hierarchy which does not capture the essence of multiline thoughts.

     

    My idea would be to add a new Keyboard Shortcut (ALT + ENTER, like in Excel) to have the possiblity to add multiline in a bullet point. This would add the possibility for user who want it without disrupting the "classic" Workflowy Look&Feel for most ot the users.

     

    At the moment this is for me the only shortcoming of Workflowy - where the product feels very clunky for me.

     

    Anyway best wishes to you and the whole workflowy team! <3

    Best Regards Mark

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    Kent C Myers

    Thank you Mark.  I'm glad to know that I'm not alone in wanting a way to advance to the next line within an item. (I  have yet to figure out the Note feature.  It's a whole 'nother level of complication that works against my practice of rapid drafting and rearranging with full visibility.) 

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    Andres Izarra

    Yeah Mark, thanks for that! I hope the Workflowy development team take note of this request of being able to insert multiple blank lines within a bullet. Also the word count feature within a bullet would be a great feature to count on. 

    Cheers,

    AI

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    Jeff

    I would also love the feature of multiple lines, i.e. embedded line breaks, in one bullet item.

    There are various reasons to do this. One more example is pasting in blocks of text with paragraphs, where you don't really want it as separate items, nor inside a note. The same goes for compatibility when pasting in OPML from other outliners that do support embedded line breaks - if they are actual line break characters, currently Workflowy collapses them all into one line. Interestingly though, if the OPML uses &#10; escaped line break codes instead, as many do, Workflowy actually creates multi-line items when it's pasted. So it seems like Workflowy may already support embedded line breaks, but just lacks a way to actually enter them.

    Nearly every other outliner I know of supports this, so I'm sure Workflowy could too. Most work by using e.g. alt-enter to create a line break without starting a new bullet item. Similarly there are ways to paste text either as multiple items or a single one, e.g. holding down shift or alt while pasting.

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    Omar

    New lines within the same bullet would be a great feature to have! (preferably using atl+enter)

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    Kristian Voss Bjerre

    I would also love this feature!

    I've actually found that it is possible with text made by the webclipper

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