How to jump to parent node when not zoomed in?

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    Frank (Workflowy Support)

    Are you asking for a keyboard shortcut that will bring you directly from "d" to its parent node?

    You can always use a mouse to get there directly. :)

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    Jayesh Bhoot

    I am looking for a keyboard shortcut.
    This is a common usecase.

    Another usecase is jumping between nodes of same level, skipping the children nodes. I am aware of the Ctrl-Shift-0 shortcut, but that operates only in zoomed-in position.

    Workflowy is weird that way. Though being keyboard dependent, it misses some crucial shortcuts.

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    Zac Nate

    Another vote for shortcut for this shortcut. Use case: you mark last entry in a long list as completed and want to jump to parent, collapse the list and mark it complete. Right now you have to move your hand to the mouse or hold down the up arrow button until you're where you want to be, shortcut would be great, something like Alt-Up.

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    Frank (Workflowy Support)

    Hi Zac,

    This is unlikely to get implemented. Especially being a fringe use case that would otherwise take up an extra keyboard shortcut (which are a scarce commodity). However, @rawbytz has a script in his WFx Chrome Extension PowerPack that does exactly what you're looking for. You can create a text shortcut to collapse the parent of the child your cursor is currently in. It's called "focus parent and collapse". @rawbytz might even create spin-off scripts to go a step further and complete (which you're looking for). if you are a PowerPack subscriber and make a suggestion via the WFx Slack group.

    There are so many permutations of what any particular user might want out of such a feature that this is not something that would easily appeal to the majority of WorkFlowy users. The use case is too specific.

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    Ekkehard Ehrenstein

    @Frank

    I just came here, because I finally, after missing this shortcut for the thousandth time, made the decision to interrupt my workflowy and finally look it up. I completely disagree with your assessment, that this is a fringe usecase. I agree with: @Jayesh Bhoot comment:

    Workflowy is weird that way. Though being keyboard dependent, it misses some crucial shortcuts.

    One of Workflowys unique selling points is it's ability to move horizontally (siblings) and vertically (nesting) therefore providing depth to your usual list taking application. To not enable a shortcut, that enables the basic vertical navigation to the parent element (without traversing all horizontal siblings), is hardly a fringe usecase.

    I have to admit, that I actually feel bemused by your statement. It simply doesn't flow, if I have to hit the up-key n-times just to close the current though level and move to the next point. I am wondering if it wouldn't be more honest to just not respond and ignore somebody, instead of offering a deflecting statement that does the same. At least, I wouldn't feel compelled to write an argument against your (imho) disingenuous statement.

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    Ekkehard Ehrenstein

    Doing a little bit of a search, here are three more pages requesting this feature in more or less the same way.

    https://workflowy.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/community/posts/360047595471-Keyboard-shortcut-to-close-parent

    https://www.reddit.com/r/Workflowy/comments/7bflkv/some_feature_requests_and_suggestions/

    https://www.quora.com/What-features-should-WorkFlowy-add

    Again, it's basic navigation, an elemental task that enables the composition of tasks (hotkey chaining) to cover multiple usecases. I really don't like moving my hand from my keyboard to the mouse every few seconds, especially when I'm in a brainstorming/outflow mode. It's discontinuous and unpleasant. 

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    Frank (Workflowy Support)

    Hi Ekkehard,

    Ok... so you're chastising the 10-month-back Frank. The current-day Frank wholeheartedly agrees with your assessment and will log this for the team to consider :-)

     

     

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    Ekkehard Ehrenstein

    Very much appreciated. Thanks for taking it easy and the great app.

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    Frank (Workflowy Support)

    Hi folk,

    So just to confirm that I'm not misunderstanding... basically the request is for a keyboard shortcut to move cursor focus between (expanded) top-level children lists?

     

    ~ Frank

     

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    Ekkehard Ehrenstein

    It's exactly as stated in the initial question:

    For the following structure:

    *a

    **b

    ***c

    ***d

    ***e

    where * denotes the nesting level. So, a -> b -> (c, d, e).

    Say I am working inside the bullet d, without zooming. Now I want to jump directly to its parent b. How do I do that?

    Additional remark:

    It shouldn't matter in what level I am working in. Just a shortcut to jump from within a list to the parent of the list. 

    In other words: Go to item parent.

    Personally I would welcome the ability to also move to the next item in the parent level:

    *a

    *b

    **b1

    **b2

    **b3

    *c

    i.e. being focussed on **b2 a hotkey that jumps the cursor to *c

    Still unclear? If so, please elaborate on the ambiguity you are able to find here.

    Thank you.

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    Frank (Workflowy Support)

    The question was for your peace of mind, Ekkehard ;-)

     

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    Ekkehard Ehrenstein

    Frank, I think we need to work on our communication here. You caused the exact opposite and pushed my mind into destress again. You know, my hands start shaking if somebody doesn't get what is obvious to me...and who would want that?

     

    Edit after the thread is closed:

    I'll pseudo respect the thread being closed and respond, that it was tongue in cheek.

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    Frank (Workflowy Support)

    Aaah, ok, I was focusing on @Jayesh's request... so there are 2 separate requests here. I think I understand both:

    1. Jayesh's request

    2. The Original Post request.

     

    @Ekkehard, it's hard to know if this is tongue-in-cheek or real distress. If the latter, then my appologies:

    >You know, my hands start shaking if somebody doesn't get what is obvious to me...and who would want that?

     

    I think the request(s) are clear and I have logged for the team to consider :-). Thank you kind sir(s)!

     

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