Better iPad physical keyboard support

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    Radha Fitch

    I was so happy to see the new iOS app update after so many years! Then I tried to use it, and couldn't navigate with the keyboard and was crestfallen. Please guys, this is top priority and seemingly an easy update! Please fast-track at least that feature for next week!

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    Jen Toksvig

    I totally agree. Using Workflowy on an iPad feels really clumsy right now. Too much inaccurate screen pressing.

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    Endre Johan Myrvang

    +1 We seriously need to be able to move between bullets using arrow keys - makes note-taking very tedious. Similar keyboard shortcuts as web would of course help also :)

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    Alan

    Also simple things like being able to indent with the tab key on physical keyboard with ipad don't work. 

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    Mr Rasmus Kolind

    Is there any update on this? The general move to mobile apps in favour of laptop / desktop is rife, yet the mobile app falls short in basic navigation using the keyboard on iPad. In the roadmap released earlier this year, I believe that I read that the focus was going to be on mobile app development, yet so far there has been little in the way of bring parity between desktop and mobile apps.

    Please can I make a case for improving keyboard navigation on the iPad app (using external keyboard). It is really important to get these basic features sorted.

    Kind regards,

    Rasmus

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    Michael R Newcomb

    +1. Of all the great effort being put into workflowy, this is the only issue/gap/feature that is missing from my perspective.

    Moving up / down between lines with the keyboard, tab for indent. That's it. I don't need any of the other keyboard shortcuts or functions. I'd even settle for just the up/down.

    I've been a paying workflowy user across 2 accounts since 2012, ran my entire life with it. Since switching to using an iPad Pro as a primary device 9 months ago, I've had to abandon it. This seems like a relatively simple change.

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    wu jun

    +1 (now using logitech K780 to reply), missing the Arrow moving between items is a huge turn down, which makes me want to buy an Android Pad...

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    Steve Lang

    I posted the same exact request 3 years ago, the response was that they were going to improve the iOS app.

    These improvements are really needed for Workflowy to be a truly productive tool on iOS that matches the desktop browser app, much less the standalone desktop apps.

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    Mark Permann

    Like Michael, I also abandoned Workflowy since switching to iPad Pro as primary device. However, my guess is that it's not a simple change. I would also guess that we iPad users are a pretty small share of the Workflowy population. After all, not even all iPad users use it with a keyboard. 

    So as much as I'd like to see this implemented...I don't expect it to be (not saying it won't be). 

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    Robert Cherny

    Really looking for this to be implemented. Would be a huge help to "road warriors" and people on the go who use WF on the go with an external keyboard.

    Maybe you've got stats showing fewer people using WF on the iPad or a tablet or something, but this here could be one reason for low numbers ;-)

    Beyond that, great to see all the mobile app updates folks (great stuff, and thank you), I have confidence will get addressed at some point...

     

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    Maarten den Braber

    +1 here too - wondering if anyone that's been using Workflowy and switched too iPad has found any workarounds or other options to mitigate these shortcomings?

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    Mark Permann

    When I first started using iPad heavily, I purchased and used Handyflowy. It is the best alternative for now, and not too expensive, I think about US $6. But it is less clean than Workflowy, occasionally breaks as Workflowy makes changes, and has different keyboard shortcuts. Myself, as I said, I’ve really over time been migrating things out of Workflowy (in my case, to Apple Notes, which definitely isn’t near as good an outliner - no focus capability for just one, but very important, example).

    I checked if Pages has an outline mode (used to, but not any more). Also from time to time look at Outlinely and also just downloaded an app called Outliner, but neither of these has the uber-clean aesthetic that makes Workflowy so compelling to flow into and sort your thoughts. 

    Basically, if I really need to do an outline now - I’ll fire up my laptop and open Workflowy desktop. 

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    Mark Permann

    P.S. as of right now, this feature request is #11 on the list when ranked by votes. It’s a highly desired feature for us (I really don’t care about #1-10) but we’re a minority. 

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    Cameron Saemann

    So there’s no way to indent on a keyboard? You have to tap the screen?

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    Andrew Joyner

    Indenting and un-indenting with <tab> ± <shift> keys works fine for me. Moving up and down between tasks with the arrow keys is the big missing one. Aside from proper keyboard support, there are a number of other significant features missing on the app compared to the browser, such as selection, export, expand/collapse all, and delete. We can dream.

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    Adam Pearson

    Seconded!

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    Saleem Asad

    Moving up and down to select multiple lines is huge for me and a basic thing to ask for when dealing with bulleted lists. Fix that and add the same key commands and the ios app will be transformed into a beast! This should be priority.

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    Lee Granas

    Sorry my dear friends. This is all tragically blocked by a bug on Apple's side that was supposed to be fixed in iOS 12.2 but did not get shipped. We are eagerly awaiting this fix as well! https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=149054

     

     

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    Mark Permann

    I had previously suggested Handyflowy, but it seems a bit buggy presently and it's been a while since updated so no longer sure if it's in active development.

    In the meantime I am using NotePlan. It is not primarily an outliner, and lacks Workflowy's killer features of folding and focus aka zoom. But, it is very clean, does allow outlines and has the task and calendar functionality many are asking Workflowy to implement...and keyboard support is excellent. I foresee using NotePlan and, when needed for Workflowy class outlining, Outlinely. Both of these are iOS native apps. I have no connection to either other than being a user. Workflowy is great...it's just not currently usable enough on iOS with keyboard. 

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    Steve Lang

    Thanks for the update Lee- just glad it is active on your list! Hopefully the next iOS update will give you chance to take care of this.

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    Andrew Joyner

    Lee, thanks for the update and the link. I get the frustration, given that the issue was first raised in 2015, and has only been partially resolved so far. As mentioned in the bug comments, I have noticed something similar in other apps, particularly the online code editors. Let's hope this will be addressed in iOS 13.

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    Kathleen Wilson

    I too appreciate the update. The link relates to the use of the arrow keys; however, I am also unable to use the tab button on my iPad Pro keyboard to indent.  Are there any updates on this?  The ability indent — quickly— is obviously a fundamental feature of outlining.  I truly love Workflowy but will need to explore other options if this is not adjusted soon.

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    Lee Granas

    Kathleen- the bug where tab isn't working with iOS 12.2 is fixed in the next update of WorkFlowy! Hooray!

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    Kathleen Wilson

    Wow that’s great news, thank you!  I will certainly be looking out for the next update!

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    Robert Cherny

    This is fantastic news!!!

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    Saleem Asad

    The new update is live! Tabbing works great! Any chance to get arrow key support so we can move up and down? Also perhaps shift so we can select multiple bullets? :)

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    Lee Granas

    Glad we got tabbing working again in iOS 12.2. :) Sadly the arrow key support is still blocked by the Apple bug (as mentioned in the thread above):  https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=149054

    Multi-select on iOS is still on the lists. Thanks for your patience!

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    Adam D Ellery

    I just updated to iOS 12.3. Still not working with the arrow key support. Please look into fixing this.

    It would be amazing if Workflowy iOS could should a shortcuts window popup. Many iOs apps support this feature. Please see screenshot of one such window from Outlinely.

     

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    Lee Granas

    Sadly this is a bug on Apple's side. You can follow along with the many other dismayed Apple users here. There is nothing we can do until Apple fixes this. https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=149054

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    Mark Permann

    Just read this article about iPadOS enabling Google Docs to work better with Safari than with Google’s iOS apps: https://www.theverge.com/2019/6/4/18652163/google-docs-ipad-ipados-safari-apple-wwdc-2019 

    Hey, if iPad Safari would allow keyboard shortcuts with the Workflowy website - that would be awesome! 

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