Virtual Instances of Bullet point

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    Max Yakin Bozek

    This is essential, as some lists should be accessed from different locations. I suggested some years ago in a feedback email that this feature could even work just as Aliases works in Mac OS. Hope something like this is applied soon,

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    JAROSLAV SKUHROVEC

    Yes, I wrote something similar few days ago - "mirror nodes". Instead od Copy you could make Mirror and move it anywhere.

    That would be very useful and helpful.

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    Richard Atlas

    Agreed! This kind of feature would be extremely useful; right now we're stuck with copy pasting long URLs as a note under the bullet point and it's both messy and not super functional. Keep up the great work!

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    Marc Cools

    I think you have to use the tags more.

    I often see that people are rearranging there list in function of the work they have to do. I keep everything together in an structured list and tags the lines. With the selection of tags I create lists and avoid moving all those lines around. The way I use it there is no need for virtual bullets, duplicate content, internal links and so on.

    I do ask for sub-tasks and extended search options.
    I think it was the setup of Workflowy : a big list and select parts of it by tags or hitting bullets for focus. Not rearranging the list continuously.

    Just my opinion. Think about it.

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    Kyler W Kelly

    Marc Cools, I agree that a system of tags could work if I was a solo user of workflowy, but we have 6 people on the team using it. Trying to only use filters and tags could work, but it doesn't really allow individuals to organize their todo in a way that works best for them.

    We mainly use workflowy because it is more flexible then other data and project management system.  Adding a feature like virtual bullet points would allow us even more flexibility in how we manage that.

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    Dustin G

    This is what we're looking for:

     

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transclusion

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    Max Yakin Bozek

    Or at least just simple hiperlinks to other WorkFlowy nodes so you can get to the same place by different paths. We very often need this. But copying the long chaotic url of the node is not practical. Also in the Mac app you cannot see anymore the url for each node. So a an alias system would solve this very easily and much more neatly.

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    VLADISLAV TIKHONOV

    Disagreed, it would complicate the app. My experience shows there is no need of such feature

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    Adam Pearson

    @Vladislav

    I agree with you - it would complicate the app, and it is important to minimise feature creep. However, if functionality can be made available to those who want it, without compromising the UX for those who don't want it, I would very much welcome it.

    The ability to clone items and not just reorder, but also restructure and edit in either location would be a superpower in my world.

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    Adam Pearson

    @Marc Cools

    The challenge for me is that I'm writing a book, with many versions of summaries to be drawn from the source material. I want to be able not just to reorder items in final document versions, but restructure them differently for different versions.

    I haven't been able to work out how to achieve that with tabs.

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    Kristian Borglund

    Great suggestion with virtual nodes / mirror nodes.

    I would use it in projects where I could bring in mirror nodes from my Contacts list, in other words the people who are involved in that project. And it would be nice if I could not only "see" the mirrored node, but also edit it anywhere it's used.

     

    In a perfect world I would love see where those mirrored nodes are mirrored so that I don't screw something up if I decide to delete or change the node.

     

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    James Palik

    I have read most ot the post here and I assume the word node refers to bullets. On that note I would love to be able to identify a bullet as "mirrored" so that any bullet by the "exact name" anywhere in the outline would reflect all the edits made in any of its mirrored instances.

    I use workflowy to identify workflows within projects. I manage many projects. Sometimes a workflow is complex but is identical to workflows other projects. Being able to create a single workflow and then have it automatically mirrored in all existing bullets of the exact name would not only save a lot of time but it would also prevent important steps from being missed in other projects with an identical workflow.

    How do I help promote this

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    Adam Pearson

    By adding your comment here, you've helped promote it, James.

    Upvoting any comments which support your request also helps (up arrow to the right of each comment).

    The support team pay attention to everything that goes on here. Because they rock. 

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    Kristian Borglund

    It would be great if you had way to easily see all the instances where a mirror note is used too. For example, right-clicking on the node and choose "Show all instances".

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    Adam Pearson

    @Lee - any comment from the feature/dev team on this topic? There seems to be considerable interest in it.

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    James Palik

    Hi Kristian Borglund,

    Are you using node and bullet synonymously? If yes, I agree with your last comment about right clicking to see all instances. Another possibility is color coding bullets that are mirrored. 

    My idea is to add mirror to the dropdown list you see when hovering over a bullet. Then, if you copy a mirrored bullet and paste it anywhere all of its contents are also pasted. Then, no matter which mirrored bullet you modify, the modification is reflected in all of its instances.

    I also think that copy and paste should be added to the dropdown. If copy is clicked, paste is highlighted and stays highlighted until either the ESC key is pressed or the copy is pasted. Duplicate could be eliminated that way.

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    Max Yakin Bozek

    Also in this forum:

    Hyperlink to different parts of workflowy:

    https://workflowy.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/community/posts/360000870443-Hyperlink-to-different-parts-of-workflowy

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    Marcin Kwiecinski

    Any progress on it? I really need this feature!!

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    George Jardim

    I strongly support the idea of “mirrored”bullets, or “virtual clones” as suggested by many people above. I wrote about this some time ago, referring to the ability to “Assign” a bullet or item to another item, such that changing the item anywhere changes it everywhere. Physical copying or using tags is messy and can be very confusing. Though I retain great respect for WorkFlowy, I’ve had to largely abandon it, and restrict any use to a few lines of simple jottings. For me, the absence of this feature has been a deal-breaker.

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    George Jardim

    Kyler Kelly above said it best. Thanks!

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    George Jardim

    Any movement in this feature request?  “... I strongly support the idea of “mirrored”bullets, or “virtual clones” as suggested by many people above. I wrote about this some time ago, referring to the ability to “Assign” a bullet or item to another Top-level item, such that changing that item anywhere changes it everywhere”.  
    I’d  left WorkFlowy for a while as I just couldn’t function without this feature, which I’d used for years in Ecco Pro (now discontinued).  I’ve returned, but the volume of my notes has grown to where they’re becoming unmanageable.  If I make a note about needing to meet with my bank, under the Top-Level Item “Bank”, it also needs to appear in my Top-Level Item “Out”, so I can safely print my zoomed “Out” list and know I haven’t forgotten anything.  Copying just isn’t good enough.  Things change.  Did I find every instance of that note and manually change it everywhere?  Chaos rules!  This one is getting to be a deal-breaker.  Nevertheless, I have great respect and sympathy for the WorkFlowy team.  But we need this feature, and sorting, and the ability to attach images to notes.  We need a new feature a month to keep us from looking elsewhere for relief. Prioritize, prioritize!!

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    Frank (Workflowy Support)

    Hi George,

    We don't have a road map for the transclusion feature as outlined in this thread or have any plans currently to schedule this. We are, however, moving ahead with several new features as we continue to polish the left bar feature and other upcoming projects.

     

     

     

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    Selma Zaki Elsarrag

    Would just like to add my support for this feature. It would be an absolute game changer for planning and subsequent organizing 

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    Frank (Workflowy Support)

    Well... whaddayaknow?... The CEO just now commented that this is on the relatively short-term radar :-)

     

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    Alfred Peters

    Wait what? Do you have a link?? I was starting to drift towards other competitors but adding transclusion would put my butt firmly in entrenched WorkFlowy territory.... It would change everything.

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    Frank (Workflowy Support)

    It's been a topic of discussion in a Slack group... and we definitely want to implement if it makes sense and we can do it elegantly. We'd like to make the butts already firmly entrenched in WorkFlowy territory a bit more comfortable and at home :-)

     

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    Nevill Van Loon

    Dropping in my support for this feature.

    I have been using workflowy for about a week now and this is the only thing missing to complete my experience. I'm using workflowy in 2 basic ways: A collection of tasks/ideas/work nicely organized by category and a timeline to schedule said work.

    I know in my case there is a workaround to (more or less) achieve the same result by using tags and/or priority next to the node and then searching, effectively making the search results the timeline/roadmap. This is messy in my opinion. Mirroring nodes to a separate timeline list would make the entire process 100% easier, faster and cleaner. 

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    Alfred Peters

    Oh boy! I cannot express how excited I am for transclusion! That at Vim are my two killer features and WorkFlowy already has the best Vim support courtesy of VimFlowy

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    George Jardim

    Yay!!!  That’s exciting!! My first feature request for “Transclusion” or “Assignment” or “Virtual Bullet Points” goes back more than a year to my initial use of WorkFlowy.  I’ve long felt that this feature is the one that would make WF the killer app of information storage and retrieval.  Seems like many users are also asking for it.  Go for it guys!

    Many people fear that WF will suffer from feature-bloat, and perhaps become confusing. I say, if you don’t need the extra features, don’t use them.  They needn’t bother you. One of WF’s competitors offers the ability to add or remove features from the toolbar.  That's a great idea.  See or use only what you need.  WF could adopt this solution.

    I’ve been a WF loyalist, though I’ve been paying attention to other competing products.  Another poster said “...adding transclusion would put my butt firmly in entrenched WorkFlowy territory....!  I support that 110%.  Regards, George. 

     

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    Nevill Van Loon

    Any updates on this?

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